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  1. 1.  GOBEIL Laurent was born on 04 Nov 1672 in Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, PQ, Canada (son of GOBEIL Jean and (Guiet) Jeanne Guyet).

    Notes:

    The youngest, Laurent Gobeil, became the godson of Nicolas Huot dit
    St-Laurent on 5 November 1672, at Ste-Famille, and disappeared into
    the darkness of
    history, after 1697.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  GOBEIL Jean was born on 14 Oct 1627 in St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France (son of GOBEIL Pierre and CHAIGNEAU Catherine); died on 28 Jun 1702 in Hotel-Dieu, Riviere-Quelle, PQ, Canada.

    Notes:

    Jean Gobeil arrived in Canada without fanfare, accompanied by his
    wife Jeanne Guyet and his five children. For more than a century,
    serious researchers tried to determine
    the place of origin of this Canadian family. Msgr Cyprien. Tanguay
    states that Jean and his family were originally from St-Didier,
    diocese of Poitiers. Others add:
    Saint-Didier of the town of Poitiers, today a parish no longer in
    existence. Rene Jette, in his recent genealogical dictionary, issues
    a new opinion: Jean Gobeil, from
    St-Andre, town and arrondissement, of Niort, diocese of Poitiers.

    Niort, presently the head town of the department of Deux-Sevres, has
    a population of 56,000 inhabitants. Until the conquest of New France
    by England, the Canadian fur
    trade gave Niort prosperity. Four parishes share the territory of
    the city: Notre-Dame, St-Hilaire, St-Etienne and St-Andre. It was in
    this last parish that the Guyet-Gobeil
    couple's life began, before 1653.

    FIRST APPEARANCE

    Had Jean Gobeil saved some money in order to go to the Lower-Town of
    Quebec? Did he come with a promise of work or without contract? We
    find him for the first time
    on 23 December 1665, in the presence of notary Auber from Chateau-
    Richer. Sieur Toussaint Toupin, a bourgeois of Quebec, agreed to
    lease him a farm at Sault-a-la-Puce
    for five consecutive years, beginning on the preceding first of
    November. Jean Gobeil was said to be a laborer. The new farmer began
    with a house and buildings to shelter
    2 steers, 3 cows, I bull and 2 calves. This incomplete record ends
    on the second page. We have to wait a long time to know that Jean was
    responsible for the animals and
    that he must pay the agreed price should some die due to lack of
    care. In addition, the first year, in other words at the end of 1666,
    Gobeil paid the equivalent of 20 livres in
    butter for the price of the lease of each cow and 10 livres for the
    four following years. The neighbors of the Gobeils were an Cloutier,
    owner of six arpents of frontal land
    since 16 July 1652, and Nicolas Huot dit St-Laurent.

    It was here, near the heart of the future parish of Chateau-Richer,
    that the Gobeils lived for five years on these six arpents of frontal
    land. During the following winter, on
    21 February 1666, the 42 year old Jean Gobeil, was confirmed by Msgr
    de Laval at Chateau-Richer. Marie and Francoise Gobeil, his
    daughters, were also in this group of
    twenty-one.

    The censustaker in the year 1666 places the Gobeil family on the
    Beaupre Coast. The censustakers in 1667 give more details. Jean
    already owned 12 head of cattle and had
    16 arpents of land under cultivation. Near his farm, there was the
    homestead of Julien Fortin and that of Jean Cloutier.

    Then, in 1668, Marie Gobeil was married to Robert Vaillancourt. The
    following year two other daughters left the paternal home -to get
    married. But two new Canadian
    Gobeil children came to replace those who had left: Catherine and
    Barthlemy.

    SAINTE-FAMILLE ON THE ISLAND

    A tenant is never completely in his own home. After five years of
    work, Jean Gobeil looked across the river towards the beautiful Ile
    'Orleans. The north coast had more
    abundant and larger wild game and the soil of the island was more
    fertile. On 28 October 1669, with is son-in-law Robert Vaillancourt,
    Jean bought a piece of land from
    Noel Rose. It was located on the Ile d'Orleans, in the parish of Ste-
    Famille. And on the following 7 November, Jean obtained the three
    remaining arpents on which there
    were some buildings and two arpents of cultivated land. This entire
    property had belonged first to Jean-Paul Maheu and Barthelemy Verreau
    dit LeBourguignon, then to
    Noel Rose dit Larose, husband of Marie Montminy. At the time of this
    purchase, their neighbors were Robert Vaillancourt and Nicolas
    Patenotre. The purchase price: 300
    livres, 87 of which were immediately given to the teller. The
    remaining debt was to be paid off in two years.

    It is difficult to verify if Vaillancourt and Gobeil had decided to
    live on the island right away. The scenario could have been: Gobeil
    would spend the winter at
    Chateau-Richer; Rose on the island. During the winter Vaillancourt
    and Gobeil would probably cut wood on their new lot. In the spring,
    Noel Rose moved to the
    Saint-Charles River where he obtained a concession from the Jesuits
    at Sainte-Anne in 1670. The Gobeil property was located across from
    Chateau-Richer, to the west of
    the present church of Ste-Famille, near the boundary of the parish
    of St-Pierre, according to the map of Robert Villeneuve.

    How to explain that on 14 January 1672, in another contract signed
    by Romain Becquet, Jean Gobeil, "habitant living on the ile
    dorleans," bought the same parcel of land
    from Noel Rose for 280 livres? Had he not been able to pay his
    mortgage? In fact, on 14 January 1672, Gobeil acquired his property
    by means of a loan from Nicolas Huot
    dit St-Laurent. Jean gave an annual rent of 14 livres tournois to St-
    Laurent. Jean resold his farm on 16 March 1688 to Claude Panneton dit
    LeFifre, for 300 livres.

    Let's remember that on 16 March 1686, Jean Gobeil had not managed to
    pay off his rent of 14 livres and the arrears. Charles Aubert de La
    Chesnaye took care of it. For the
    first time, it was said that the Gobeil land was located at Pot au
    beurre, a popular name for a part of the parish of Ste-Famille.

    SAINT-JEAN ON THE ISLAND

    Jean Gobeil had the characteristics of a nomad. Did he suffer from
    the fidgets? Perhaps also the weight of the years tired him. In the
    census of 1681, Jean was 57 years old,
    settled in the parish of St-Jean, on a piece of land with five
    arpents in frontage, with neighbors Antoine Leblanc and son-in-law
    Philippe Paquet, the husband of Francoise
    Gobeil. Jean only had five arpents of land under cultivation. The
    censustakers noted no cattle in the stable. We are definitely not at
    the Palace of Versailles. The children,
    with the exception of two, earned their living elsewhere. It seems
    that the letters of acquisition for this concession have been lost.

    Jean and Jeanne Guyet worked hard on their farm for several years
    more, before bequeathing their inheritance. In 1695, twenty-five
    arpents, in area were under cultivation.
    The necessities of life allowed for no vacations nor any rest.

    FIVE FRENCH DAUGHTERS, FOUR CANADIAN CHILDREN

    When the Gobeil couple crossed the ocean, they were accompanied by
    five daughters born in France. Two other daughters and two sons were
    born in Canada. Here are the
    names of the members of this second generation: Jeanne, Marie,
    Francoise, Marie, Jeanne-Angelique, Catherine, Barthelemi, Marguerite
    and Laurent.

    I. The oldest, the little French Jeanne, was married about 1669,
    probably at Chateau-Richer, to the soldier Pierre Philippe,
    originally from the Vendee, in Poitou. This
    family left no descendants. Jeanne, if there is no mix up with her
    sister Jeanne-Angelique, appeared is godmother of niece Jeanne
    Paquet, on 5 November 1676, at
    Ste-Famille. In 1687 at St-Pierre, she became the godmother of
    Francois Vaillancourt. As for her husband, we find him on the long
    list of 279 people confirmed at Quebec
    on 4 April 1684.

    2. The history of Marie, born about 1655, is known to USA through
    that of her fiance Robert Vaillancourt and through her twelve
    children, all born and baptized at the
    church of Ste-Famille on the island.

    3. Francoise, confirmed with her sister Marie, at Chateau-Richer on
    21 February 1666, met Philippe Paquet, son of Antoine and of Renee
    Fouyart, from St- Martin
    -la-Riviere, in Poitou. On 12 June 1669, they signed a marriage
    contract. They settled on the island in the parish of Ste-Famille,
    then went to the parish of St-Jean, where
    eight sons and two daughters were born. Francoise Gobeil died on 24
    February 1716.

    4. The biographical account of the ancestor Pierre Hudon dit
    Beaulieu, at the same time, gives USA an account of Marie(2) Gobeil,
    born about 1659, married on 13 July
    1676 at Quebec, mother of twelve children at Riviere-Ouelle. After
    the death of her husband in 1710, she looked after her family for a
    quarter of a century. Her burial was at
    Riviere-Ouelle on Monday, 26 November 1736. How to explain that a
    girl from the island could become the servant of Jacques Leber, a
    notable merchant and land owner,
    at Montreal? On 4 July 1690, we find her again, ill for two days at
    the Hotel-Dieu of Quebec. She then said she was 23 years old.

    5. The following year, Jeanne-Angelique met Louis Prat, living in
    the Lower-Town of Quebec. The wedding took place at the cathedral on
    30 July 1691. Louis Prat was a
    good fellow, an innkeeper, a merchant-baker, a ship owner and the
    port captain of Quebec. In 1704, he built the ship le Joybert. "A few
    months after it was launched, the
    vessel returned triumphantly to Quebec, bringing the Pembroke Gally,
    a frigate taken from the English. This period is remembered in a
    painting dated from 1706 given to
    the sanctuary of Sainte-Anne-de-Beaupre. "

    In 1716, Louis and Jeanne-Angelique were living in the Rue Sous-le-
    Fort. The couple had three daughters, one of whom survived, Marie-
    Josephe, and was married to
    Charles-Paul Denis, Sieur de Saint-Simon, on 17 October 1713, at
    Quebec. Louis died in February 1726 and was buried in the cathedral.

    6. Catherine, the first Gobeil to be born in New France, on 26 March
    1666, was also a servant at the home of the fur merchant and founder
    of the Compagnie A Nord,
    Jacques Leber, in Montreal. She died as a result of the epidemic at
    the Hopital-General de Quebec after 11 February 1703.

    7. Barthelemi, the seventh Gobeil child, was the only one to carry
    on the name. Godson of Barthelemi Verreau, on 21 April 1668 at
    Chateau-Richer, a servant at the home
    of Francois Belanger in 1681, he moved into the Dionne family by
    marrying Anne, daughter of Antoine and of Catherine Ivory, on 19
    August 1697, at Ste-Famille. They
    had nine children, five of whom were sons, at St-Jean. Barthelemi
    inherited the paternal property. He died on 7 February 1724, after a
    long illness, fortified by all the
    sacraments.

    8. Marguerite Gobeil, was baptized at Chateau-Richer on 27 February
    1670. At the age of 18, she became the life companion of ancestor
    Guillaume Montminy, from
    Rouen, on 25 February 1688, at St-Jean. Seven children were given to
    them, including two born at La Durantaye. The burial act for
    Marguerite is found in the registry at
    Beaumont, on the date of 4 March 1715.

    9. The youngest, Laurent Gobeil, became the godson of Nicolas Huot
    dit St-Laurent on 5 November 1672, at Ste-Famille, and disappeared
    into the darkness of history,
    after 1697.

    And so the second and sympathetic Gobeil generation lived and died
    on the soil of their adopted country.

    THE INHERITANCE

    The weight of his 70 years lay heavily on the shoulders of Jean
    Gobeil. Moderate priced low income housing did not exist. It was
    necessary to get the family organized in
    order to survive with a minimum of freedom and security. To live out
    his old age in peace did not have the same sound of the bell as it
    does today.

    On 23 August 1695, Jean sold the farm to his son Barthelemi. This
    consisted of 25 arpents of cultivated land with his "sorry " house,
    his stable, the animals and his barn.
    His son immediately paid him 300 livres "in playing card money"
    which was legal tender at that time.

    Francois Genaple placed the document of this last sale in his notes
    at Quebec, in the presence of witnesses Nicolas Moreau, living on
    "rue saint nicolas," and Jean-Baptiste
    Peuvret, head clerk of the Sovereign Council. Son Barthelemi was
    still a bachelor. This ancestral land remained in the Gobeil family
    hands at St-Jean through the whole of
    the French regime.

    The special thing about Jean Gobeil's situation is that he imposed
    10 conditions at the time of the signing of his sale contract. Should
    we conclude that his son had verbally
    promised his elderly father to keep him at his home? Yes.

    We know that Jeanne Guyet died after 27 April 1689, the day on which
    she attended the burial of her Montminy grandson born dead, at -
    Laurent. This was the last notation
    of her presence among USA. Jean Gobeil stayed eighteen days at the
    Hotel-Dieu de Quebec during the months of January and February 1698.
    Then his story goes out like a
    beautiful candle at twilight.

    Jean Gobeil entered this country without announcing his arrival and
    he left it without leaving a trace of his departure. It may be
    likened to the stalk of an olive tree which
    disappears imperceptibly after having accepted new stems to replace
    it.

    FAMILY NAME VARIATIONS

    The only known variation of the name Gobeil is Gubby.


    END NOTES

    1) Records of Auber, 23 December 1665; 7 November 1669.
    2) Record of Becquet, 14 January 1672.
    3) Record of Genaple, 23 August 1695.
    4) Records of Rageot, 16 March 1686; 28 June 1690; 13 July 1690.
    5) Record of Vachon, 16 March 1688.
    6) Dussault, Eugene-F., Les Toupin du Sault (1976), page 36.
    7) Hollier, Robert., La France des Canadiens (1962), page 120.
    8) Jette, Rene., (1983), pages 506-507.
    9) Lafontaine, Andre., RANF 1666 & 1667 (1985), pages 27, 25 1;
    (1981), page 266; RAVO 1716 & 1744 (1983), pages 68, 188.
    10) Montel-Glenison, Caroline., Un tour de France Canadien (1980),
    page 163.
    11) Roy, Leon., LTIO 1650-1725 (1978), pages 160-162, 264-268, 380-
    391,419.
    12) Tanguay, Cyprien., DGFC (187 1), Volume 1, page 272.
    13) DBC, Volume 2, pages 554-555, Louis Prat.
    14) MSGCF, Volume 15, page 45; Volume 26, pages 173-183.



    He was from St-Andre, v. et ar. Niort, ev. Poitiers, Poitou (Deux-
    Sevres), France. He answered that he was 42 in 1666 and 1667 and in
    Beaupre (Chateau-Richer), and
    ansered that he was 57 in the 1681 recording living at the Isle
    Orleans. Confirmed on 21 Feb 1666 in Chateau-Richer, QP. He answered
    that he was 42. He was cited as
    being in Hotel-Dieu, Quebec, QP, on 12 Mar 1698 and age of 67.

    Birth:
    BET ABT 1624 AND 1625

    Died:
    Burial: Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, PQ, Canada

    Jean married (Guiet) Jeanne Guyet about 1654 in St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France. Jeanne (daughter of GUYET Pierre and FOQUIER Gabrielle Roquier or) was born on 15 Nov 1632 in St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France; died on 13 Aug 1697 in St-Laurent, I'le D'Orleans, PQ, Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  (Guiet) Jeanne Guyet was born on 15 Nov 1632 in St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France (daughter of GUYET Pierre and FOQUIER Gabrielle Roquier or); died on 13 Aug 1697 in St-Laurent, I'le D'Orleans, PQ, Canada.

    Notes:

    She answered that she was 32 at the 1666 and 1667 recordings, and
    that she was 47 in 1681.

    Children:
    1. GOBEIL Marie Francoise was born in 1655 in St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France; died after 17 Apr 1714 in Ste-Famille Ile-D'Orleans, PQ, Canada.
    2. GOBEIL Francoise was born in 1656 in St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France.
    3. GOBIEL Marie-Angelique was born on 02 Apr 1659 in St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France; died on 25 Nov 1736 in Riviere Quelle, Kamouraska, PQ, Canada.
    4. GOBEIL Jeanne Angelique was born in 1663 in St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France; died in PQ, Canada.
    5. GOBEIL Catherine was born on 26 Mar 1666 in Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, PQ, Canada; died before 11 Feb 1703 in General Hospital, Montreal, PQ, Canada.
    6. GOBEIL Barthelemi was born on 21 Apr 1668 in Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, PQ, Canada; died on 07 Feb 1724 in St-Jean, Ile D'Orleans, PQ, Canada.
    7. GOBEIL Marguerite was born on 26 Feb 1670 in Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, PQ, Canada; died on 14 Mar 1715 in St-Etienne/Beaumont, Bellechase, PQ, Canada.
    8. 1. GOBEIL Laurent was born on 04 Nov 1672 in Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, PQ, Canada.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  GOBEIL Pierre was born in 1603 (son of GOBEIL Michel and BENOIT Vincente).

    Pierre married CHAIGNEAU Catherine on 18 Feb 1623 in St-Liguaire, Deux-Sevres, France. Catherine (daughter of CHAIGNEAU Samuel and AUDIER Jehanne) was born in 1603. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  CHAIGNEAU Catherine was born in 1603 (daughter of CHAIGNEAU Samuel and AUDIER Jehanne).
    Children:
    1. 2. GOBEIL Jean was born on 14 Oct 1627 in St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France; died on 28 Jun 1702 in Hotel-Dieu, Riviere-Quelle, PQ, Canada.

  3. 6.  GUYET Pierre

    Pierre married FOQUIER Gabrielle Roquier or. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  FOQUIER Gabrielle Roquier or
    Children:
    1. 3. (Guiet) Jeanne Guyet was born on 15 Nov 1632 in St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France; died on 13 Aug 1697 in St-Laurent, I'le D'Orleans, PQ, Canada.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  GOBEIL Michel

    Michel married BENOIT Vincente. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  BENOIT Vincente
    Children:
    1. 4. GOBEIL Pierre was born in 1603.

  3. 10.  CHAIGNEAU Samuel

    Samuel married AUDIER Jehanne. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  AUDIER Jehanne
    Children:
    1. 5. CHAIGNEAU Catherine was born in 1603.