1627 - 1702  (74 years)
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| Name | 
GOBEIL Jean  |  
| Birth | 
14 Oct 1627  | 
St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France    | 
 
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| Gender | 
Male  |  
| Death | 
28 Jun 1702  | 
Hotel-Dieu, Riviere-Quelle, PQ, Canada    | 
 
- Burial: Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, PQ, Canada
 
 
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| Notes  | 
- Jean Gobeil arrived in Canada without fanfare, accompanied by his 
 
wife Jeanne Guyet and his five children. For more than a century,  
serious researchers tried to determine 
the place of origin of this Canadian family. Msgr Cyprien. Tanguay  
states that Jean and his family were originally from St-Didier,  
diocese of Poitiers. Others add: 
Saint-Didier of the town of Poitiers, today a parish no longer in  
existence. Rene Jette, in his recent genealogical dictionary, issues  
a new opinion: Jean Gobeil, from 
St-Andre, town and arrondissement, of Niort, diocese of Poitiers.  
 
Niort, presently the head town of the department of Deux-Sevres, has  
a population of 56,000 inhabitants. Until the conquest of New France  
by England, the Canadian fur 
trade gave Niort prosperity. Four parishes share the territory of  
the city: Notre-Dame, St-Hilaire, St-Etienne and St-Andre. It was in  
this last parish that the Guyet-Gobeil 
couple's life began, before 1653.  
 
FIRST APPEARANCE 
 
Had Jean Gobeil saved some money in order to go to the Lower-Town of  
Quebec? Did he come with a promise of work or without contract? We  
find him for the first time 
on 23 December 1665, in the presence of notary Auber from Chateau- 
Richer. Sieur Toussaint Toupin, a bourgeois of Quebec, agreed to  
lease him a farm at Sault-a-la-Puce 
for five consecutive years, beginning on the preceding first of  
November. Jean Gobeil was said to be a laborer. The new farmer began  
with a house and buildings to shelter 
2 steers, 3 cows, I bull and 2 calves. This incomplete record ends  
on the second page. We have to wait a long time to know that Jean was  
responsible for the animals and 
that he must pay the agreed price should some die due to lack of  
care. In addition, the first year, in other words at the end of 1666,  
Gobeil paid the equivalent of 20 livres in 
butter for the price of the lease of each cow and 10 livres for the  
four following years. The neighbors of the Gobeils were an Cloutier,  
owner of six arpents of frontal land 
since 16 July 1652, and Nicolas Huot dit St-Laurent.  
 
It was here, near the heart of the future parish of Chateau-Richer,  
that the Gobeils lived for five years on these six arpents of frontal  
land. During the following winter, on 
21 February 1666, the 42 year old Jean Gobeil, was confirmed by Msgr  
de Laval at Chateau-Richer. Marie and Francoise Gobeil, his  
daughters, were also in this group of 
twenty-one.  
 
The censustaker in the year 1666 places the Gobeil family on the  
Beaupre Coast. The censustakers in 1667 give more details. Jean  
already owned 12 head of cattle and had 
16 arpents of land under cultivation. Near his farm, there was the  
homestead of Julien Fortin and that of Jean Cloutier.  
 
Then, in 1668, Marie Gobeil was married to Robert Vaillancourt. The  
following year two other daughters left the paternal home -to get  
married. But two new Canadian 
Gobeil children came to replace those who had left: Catherine and  
Barthlemy.  
 
SAINTE-FAMILLE ON THE ISLAND 
 
A tenant is never completely in his own home. After five years of  
work, Jean Gobeil looked across the river towards the beautiful Ile  
'Orleans. The north coast had more 
abundant and larger wild game and the soil of the island was more  
fertile. On 28 October 1669, with is son-in-law Robert Vaillancourt,  
Jean bought a piece of land from 
Noel Rose. It was located on the Ile d'Orleans, in the parish of Ste- 
Famille. And on the following 7 November, Jean obtained the three  
remaining arpents on which there 
were some buildings and two arpents of cultivated land. This entire  
property had belonged first to Jean-Paul Maheu and Barthelemy Verreau  
dit LeBourguignon, then to 
Noel Rose dit Larose, husband of Marie Montminy. At the time of this  
purchase, their neighbors were Robert Vaillancourt and Nicolas  
Patenotre. The purchase price: 300 
livres, 87 of which were immediately given to the teller. The  
remaining debt was to be paid off in two years.  
 
It is difficult to verify if Vaillancourt and Gobeil had decided to  
live on the island right away. The scenario could have been: Gobeil  
would spend the winter at 
Chateau-Richer; Rose on the island. During the winter Vaillancourt  
and Gobeil would probably cut wood on their new lot. In the spring,  
Noel Rose moved to the 
Saint-Charles River where he obtained a concession from the Jesuits  
at Sainte-Anne in 1670. The Gobeil property was located across from  
Chateau-Richer, to the west of 
the present church of Ste-Famille, near the boundary of the parish  
of St-Pierre, according to the map of Robert Villeneuve.  
 
How to explain that on 14 January 1672, in another contract signed  
by Romain Becquet, Jean Gobeil, "habitant living on the ile  
dorleans," bought the same parcel of land 
from Noel Rose for 280 livres? Had he not been able to pay his  
mortgage? In fact, on 14 January 1672, Gobeil acquired his property  
by means of a loan from Nicolas Huot 
dit St-Laurent. Jean gave an annual rent of 14 livres tournois to St- 
Laurent. Jean resold his farm on 16 March 1688 to Claude Panneton dit  
LeFifre, for 300 livres.  
 
Let's remember that on 16 March 1686, Jean Gobeil had not managed to  
pay off his rent of 14 livres and the arrears. Charles Aubert de La  
Chesnaye took care of it. For the 
first time, it was said that the Gobeil land was located at Pot au  
beurre, a popular name for a part of the parish of Ste-Famille.  
 
SAINT-JEAN ON THE ISLAND 
 
Jean Gobeil had the characteristics of a nomad. Did he suffer from  
the fidgets? Perhaps also the weight of the years tired him. In the  
census of 1681, Jean was 57 years old, 
settled in the parish of St-Jean, on a piece of land with five  
arpents in frontage, with neighbors Antoine Leblanc and son-in-law  
Philippe Paquet, the husband of Francoise 
Gobeil. Jean only had five arpents of land under cultivation. The  
censustakers noted no cattle in the stable. We are definitely not at  
the Palace of Versailles. The children, 
with the exception of two, earned their living elsewhere. It seems  
that the letters of acquisition for this concession have been lost.  
 
Jean and Jeanne Guyet worked hard on their farm for several years  
more, before bequeathing their inheritance. In 1695, twenty-five  
arpents, in area were under cultivation. 
The necessities of life allowed for no vacations nor any rest.  
 
FIVE FRENCH DAUGHTERS, FOUR CANADIAN CHILDREN 
 
When the Gobeil couple crossed the ocean, they were accompanied by  
five daughters born in France. Two other daughters and two sons were  
born in Canada. Here are the 
names of the members of this second generation: Jeanne, Marie,  
Francoise, Marie, Jeanne-Angelique, Catherine, Barthelemi, Marguerite  
and Laurent.  
 
I. The oldest, the little French Jeanne, was married about 1669,  
probably at Chateau-Richer, to the soldier Pierre Philippe,  
originally from the Vendee, in Poitou. This 
family left no descendants. Jeanne, if there is no mix up with her  
sister Jeanne-Angelique, appeared is godmother of niece Jeanne  
Paquet, on 5 November 1676, at 
Ste-Famille. In 1687 at St-Pierre, she became the godmother of  
Francois Vaillancourt. As for her husband, we find him on the long  
list of 279 people confirmed at Quebec 
on 4 April 1684.  
 
2. The history of Marie, born about 1655, is known to USA through  
that of her fiance Robert Vaillancourt and through her twelve  
children, all born and baptized at the 
church of Ste-Famille on the island.  
 
3. Francoise, confirmed with her sister Marie, at Chateau-Richer on  
21 February 1666, met Philippe Paquet, son of Antoine and of Renee  
Fouyart, from St- Martin 
-la-Riviere, in Poitou. On 12 June 1669, they signed a marriage  
contract. They settled on the island in the parish of Ste-Famille,  
then went to the parish of St-Jean, where 
eight sons and two daughters were born. Francoise Gobeil died on 24  
February 1716.  
 
4. The biographical account of the ancestor Pierre Hudon dit  
Beaulieu, at the same time, gives USA an account of Marie(2) Gobeil,  
born about 1659, married on 13 July 
1676 at Quebec, mother of twelve children at Riviere-Ouelle. After  
the death of her husband in 1710, she looked after her family for a  
quarter of a century. Her burial was at 
Riviere-Ouelle on Monday, 26 November 1736. How to explain that a  
girl from the island could become the servant of Jacques Leber, a  
notable merchant and land owner, 
at Montreal? On 4 July 1690, we find her again, ill for two days at  
the Hotel-Dieu of Quebec. She then said she was 23 years old.  
 
5. The following year, Jeanne-Angelique met Louis Prat, living in  
the Lower-Town of Quebec. The wedding took place at the cathedral on  
30 July 1691. Louis Prat was a 
good fellow, an innkeeper, a merchant-baker, a ship owner and the  
port captain of Quebec. In 1704, he built the ship le Joybert. "A few  
months after it was launched, the 
vessel returned triumphantly to Quebec, bringing the Pembroke Gally,  
a frigate taken from the English. This period is remembered in a  
painting dated from 1706 given to 
the sanctuary of Sainte-Anne-de-Beaupre. "  
 
In 1716, Louis and Jeanne-Angelique were living in the Rue Sous-le- 
Fort. The couple had three daughters, one of whom survived, Marie- 
Josephe, and was married to 
Charles-Paul Denis, Sieur de Saint-Simon, on 17 October 1713, at  
Quebec. Louis died in February 1726 and was buried in the cathedral.  
 
6. Catherine, the first Gobeil to be born in New France, on 26 March  
1666, was also a servant at the home of the fur merchant and founder  
of the Compagnie A Nord, 
Jacques Leber, in Montreal. She died as a result of the epidemic at  
the Hopital-General de Quebec after 11 February 1703.  
 
7. Barthelemi, the seventh Gobeil child, was the only one to carry  
on the name. Godson of Barthelemi Verreau, on 21 April 1668 at  
Chateau-Richer, a servant at the home 
of Francois Belanger in 1681, he moved into the Dionne family by  
marrying Anne, daughter of Antoine and of Catherine Ivory, on 19  
August 1697, at Ste-Famille. They 
had nine children, five of whom were sons, at St-Jean. Barthelemi  
inherited the paternal property. He died on 7 February 1724, after a  
long illness, fortified by all the 
sacraments.  
 
8. Marguerite Gobeil, was baptized at Chateau-Richer on 27 February  
1670. At the age of 18, she became the life companion of ancestor  
Guillaume Montminy, from 
Rouen, on 25 February 1688, at St-Jean. Seven children were given to  
them, including two born at La Durantaye. The burial act for  
Marguerite is found in the registry at 
Beaumont, on the date of 4 March 1715.  
 
9. The youngest, Laurent Gobeil, became the godson of Nicolas Huot  
dit St-Laurent on 5 November 1672, at Ste-Famille, and disappeared  
into the darkness of history, 
after 1697.  
 
And so the second and sympathetic Gobeil generation lived and died  
on the soil of their adopted country.  
 
THE INHERITANCE 
 
The weight of his 70 years lay heavily on the shoulders of Jean  
Gobeil. Moderate priced low income housing did not exist. It was  
necessary to get the family organized in 
order to survive with a minimum of freedom and security. To live out  
his old age in peace did not have the same sound of the bell as it  
does today.  
 
On 23 August 1695, Jean sold the farm to his son Barthelemi. This  
consisted of 25 arpents of cultivated land with his "sorry " house,  
his stable, the animals and his barn. 
His son immediately paid him 300 livres "in playing card money"  
which was legal tender at that time. 
 
Francois Genaple placed the document of this last sale in his notes  
at Quebec, in the presence of witnesses Nicolas Moreau, living on  
"rue saint nicolas," and Jean-Baptiste 
Peuvret, head clerk of the Sovereign Council. Son Barthelemi was  
still a bachelor. This ancestral land remained in the Gobeil family  
hands at St-Jean through the whole of 
the French regime.  
 
The special thing about Jean Gobeil's situation is that he imposed  
10 conditions at the time of the signing of his sale contract. Should  
we conclude that his son had verbally 
promised his elderly father to keep him at his home? Yes.  
 
We know that Jeanne Guyet died after 27 April 1689, the day on which  
she attended the burial of her Montminy grandson born dead, at - 
Laurent. This was the last notation 
of her presence among USA. Jean Gobeil stayed eighteen days at the  
Hotel-Dieu de Quebec during the months of January and February 1698.  
Then his story goes out like a 
beautiful candle at twilight.  
 
Jean Gobeil entered this country without announcing his arrival and  
he left it without leaving a trace of his departure. It may be  
likened to the stalk of an olive tree which 
disappears imperceptibly after having accepted new stems to replace  
it.  
 
FAMILY NAME VARIATIONS 
 
The only known variation of the name Gobeil is Gubby.  
 
 
END NOTES 
 
1) Records of Auber, 23 December 1665; 7 November 1669. 
2) Record of Becquet, 14 January 1672. 
3) Record of Genaple, 23 August 1695. 
4) Records of Rageot, 16 March 1686; 28 June 1690; 13 July 1690. 
5) Record of Vachon, 16 March 1688. 
6) Dussault, Eugene-F., Les Toupin du Sault (1976), page 36. 
7) Hollier, Robert., La France des Canadiens (1962), page 120. 
8) Jette, Rene., (1983), pages 506-507. 
9) Lafontaine, Andre., RANF 1666 & 1667 (1985), pages 27, 25 1;  
(1981), page 266; RAVO 1716 & 1744 (1983), pages 68, 188. 
10) Montel-Glenison, Caroline., Un tour de France Canadien (1980),  
page 163. 
11) Roy, Leon., LTIO 1650-1725 (1978), pages 160-162, 264-268, 380- 
391,419. 
12) Tanguay, Cyprien., DGFC (187 1), Volume 1, page 272. 
13) DBC, Volume 2, pages 554-555, Louis Prat. 
14) MSGCF, Volume 15, page 45; Volume 26, pages 173-183. 
 
 
 
He was from St-Andre, v. et ar. Niort, ev. Poitiers, Poitou (Deux- 
Sevres), France. He answered that he was 42 in 1666 and 1667 and in  
Beaupre (Chateau-Richer), and 
ansered that he was 57 in the 1681 recording living at the Isle  
Orleans. Confirmed on 21 Feb 1666 in Chateau-Richer, QP. He answered  
that he was 42. He was cited as 
being in Hotel-Dieu, Quebec, QP, on 12 Mar 1698 and age of 67. 
 
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| Person ID | 
I3433  | 
Freeman-Smith | 
 
| Last Modified | 
10 Apr 2024  |  
 
 
 
| Family | 
(Guiet) Jeanne Guyet,   b. 15 Nov 1632, St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France  d. 13 Aug 1697, St-Laurent, I'le D'Orleans, PQ, Canada   (Age 64 years)  |  
| Marriage | 
Abt 1654  | 
St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France    | 
 
| Children  | 
|   | 1. GOBEIL Marie Francoise,   b. 1655, St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France  d. Aft 17 Apr 1714, Ste-Famille Ile-D'Orleans, PQ, Canada   (Age > 59 years)  [natural] |  
|   | 2. GOBEIL Francoise,   b. 1656, St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France    [natural] |  
|   | 3. GOBIEL Marie-Angelique,   b. 02 Apr 1659, St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France  d. 25 Nov 1736, Riviere Quelle, Kamouraska, PQ, Canada   (Age 77 years)  [natural] |  
|   | 4. GOBEIL Jeanne Angelique,   b. 1663, St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France  d. PQ, Canada    [natural] |  
|   | 5. GOBEIL Catherine,   b. 26 Mar 1666, Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, PQ, Canada  d. Bef 11 Feb 1703, General Hospital, Montreal, PQ, Canada   (Age < 36 years)  [natural] |  
|   | 6. GOBEIL Barthelemi,   b. 21 Apr 1668, Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, PQ, Canada  d. 07 Feb 1724, St-Jean, Ile D'Orleans, PQ, Canada   (Age 55 years)  [natural] |  
|   | 7. GOBEIL Marguerite,   b. 26 Feb 1670, Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, PQ, Canada  d. 14 Mar 1715, St-Etienne/Beaumont, Bellechase, PQ, Canada   (Age 45 years)  [natural] |  
|   | 8. GOBEIL Laurent,   b. 04 Nov 1672, Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, PQ, Canada    [natural] |  
 
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| Family ID | 
F3433  | 
Group Sheet  |  Family Chart | 
 
| Last Modified | 
10 Apr 2024  |  
 
 
  
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