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GOBEIL Jean

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  • Name GOBEIL Jean 
    Birth 14 Oct 1627  St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • BET ABT 1624 AND 1625
    Gender Male 
    Death 28 Jun 1702  Hotel-Dieu, Riviere-Quelle, PQ, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Burial: Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, PQ, Canada
    Notes 
    • Jean Gobeil arrived in Canada without fanfare, accompanied by his
      wife Jeanne Guyet and his five children. For more than a century,
      serious researchers tried to determine
      the place of origin of this Canadian family. Msgr Cyprien. Tanguay
      states that Jean and his family were originally from St-Didier,
      diocese of Poitiers. Others add:
      Saint-Didier of the town of Poitiers, today a parish no longer in
      existence. Rene Jette, in his recent genealogical dictionary, issues
      a new opinion: Jean Gobeil, from
      St-Andre, town and arrondissement, of Niort, diocese of Poitiers.

      Niort, presently the head town of the department of Deux-Sevres, has
      a population of 56,000 inhabitants. Until the conquest of New France
      by England, the Canadian fur
      trade gave Niort prosperity. Four parishes share the territory of
      the city: Notre-Dame, St-Hilaire, St-Etienne and St-Andre. It was in
      this last parish that the Guyet-Gobeil
      couple's life began, before 1653.

      FIRST APPEARANCE

      Had Jean Gobeil saved some money in order to go to the Lower-Town of
      Quebec? Did he come with a promise of work or without contract? We
      find him for the first time
      on 23 December 1665, in the presence of notary Auber from Chateau-
      Richer. Sieur Toussaint Toupin, a bourgeois of Quebec, agreed to
      lease him a farm at Sault-a-la-Puce
      for five consecutive years, beginning on the preceding first of
      November. Jean Gobeil was said to be a laborer. The new farmer began
      with a house and buildings to shelter
      2 steers, 3 cows, I bull and 2 calves. This incomplete record ends
      on the second page. We have to wait a long time to know that Jean was
      responsible for the animals and
      that he must pay the agreed price should some die due to lack of
      care. In addition, the first year, in other words at the end of 1666,
      Gobeil paid the equivalent of 20 livres in
      butter for the price of the lease of each cow and 10 livres for the
      four following years. The neighbors of the Gobeils were an Cloutier,
      owner of six arpents of frontal land
      since 16 July 1652, and Nicolas Huot dit St-Laurent.

      It was here, near the heart of the future parish of Chateau-Richer,
      that the Gobeils lived for five years on these six arpents of frontal
      land. During the following winter, on
      21 February 1666, the 42 year old Jean Gobeil, was confirmed by Msgr
      de Laval at Chateau-Richer. Marie and Francoise Gobeil, his
      daughters, were also in this group of
      twenty-one.

      The censustaker in the year 1666 places the Gobeil family on the
      Beaupre Coast. The censustakers in 1667 give more details. Jean
      already owned 12 head of cattle and had
      16 arpents of land under cultivation. Near his farm, there was the
      homestead of Julien Fortin and that of Jean Cloutier.

      Then, in 1668, Marie Gobeil was married to Robert Vaillancourt. The
      following year two other daughters left the paternal home -to get
      married. But two new Canadian
      Gobeil children came to replace those who had left: Catherine and
      Barthlemy.

      SAINTE-FAMILLE ON THE ISLAND

      A tenant is never completely in his own home. After five years of
      work, Jean Gobeil looked across the river towards the beautiful Ile
      'Orleans. The north coast had more
      abundant and larger wild game and the soil of the island was more
      fertile. On 28 October 1669, with is son-in-law Robert Vaillancourt,
      Jean bought a piece of land from
      Noel Rose. It was located on the Ile d'Orleans, in the parish of Ste-
      Famille. And on the following 7 November, Jean obtained the three
      remaining arpents on which there
      were some buildings and two arpents of cultivated land. This entire
      property had belonged first to Jean-Paul Maheu and Barthelemy Verreau
      dit LeBourguignon, then to
      Noel Rose dit Larose, husband of Marie Montminy. At the time of this
      purchase, their neighbors were Robert Vaillancourt and Nicolas
      Patenotre. The purchase price: 300
      livres, 87 of which were immediately given to the teller. The
      remaining debt was to be paid off in two years.

      It is difficult to verify if Vaillancourt and Gobeil had decided to
      live on the island right away. The scenario could have been: Gobeil
      would spend the winter at
      Chateau-Richer; Rose on the island. During the winter Vaillancourt
      and Gobeil would probably cut wood on their new lot. In the spring,
      Noel Rose moved to the
      Saint-Charles River where he obtained a concession from the Jesuits
      at Sainte-Anne in 1670. The Gobeil property was located across from
      Chateau-Richer, to the west of
      the present church of Ste-Famille, near the boundary of the parish
      of St-Pierre, according to the map of Robert Villeneuve.

      How to explain that on 14 January 1672, in another contract signed
      by Romain Becquet, Jean Gobeil, "habitant living on the ile
      dorleans," bought the same parcel of land
      from Noel Rose for 280 livres? Had he not been able to pay his
      mortgage? In fact, on 14 January 1672, Gobeil acquired his property
      by means of a loan from Nicolas Huot
      dit St-Laurent. Jean gave an annual rent of 14 livres tournois to St-
      Laurent. Jean resold his farm on 16 March 1688 to Claude Panneton dit
      LeFifre, for 300 livres.

      Let's remember that on 16 March 1686, Jean Gobeil had not managed to
      pay off his rent of 14 livres and the arrears. Charles Aubert de La
      Chesnaye took care of it. For the
      first time, it was said that the Gobeil land was located at Pot au
      beurre, a popular name for a part of the parish of Ste-Famille.

      SAINT-JEAN ON THE ISLAND

      Jean Gobeil had the characteristics of a nomad. Did he suffer from
      the fidgets? Perhaps also the weight of the years tired him. In the
      census of 1681, Jean was 57 years old,
      settled in the parish of St-Jean, on a piece of land with five
      arpents in frontage, with neighbors Antoine Leblanc and son-in-law
      Philippe Paquet, the husband of Francoise
      Gobeil. Jean only had five arpents of land under cultivation. The
      censustakers noted no cattle in the stable. We are definitely not at
      the Palace of Versailles. The children,
      with the exception of two, earned their living elsewhere. It seems
      that the letters of acquisition for this concession have been lost.

      Jean and Jeanne Guyet worked hard on their farm for several years
      more, before bequeathing their inheritance. In 1695, twenty-five
      arpents, in area were under cultivation.
      The necessities of life allowed for no vacations nor any rest.

      FIVE FRENCH DAUGHTERS, FOUR CANADIAN CHILDREN

      When the Gobeil couple crossed the ocean, they were accompanied by
      five daughters born in France. Two other daughters and two sons were
      born in Canada. Here are the
      names of the members of this second generation: Jeanne, Marie,
      Francoise, Marie, Jeanne-Angelique, Catherine, Barthelemi, Marguerite
      and Laurent.

      I. The oldest, the little French Jeanne, was married about 1669,
      probably at Chateau-Richer, to the soldier Pierre Philippe,
      originally from the Vendee, in Poitou. This
      family left no descendants. Jeanne, if there is no mix up with her
      sister Jeanne-Angelique, appeared is godmother of niece Jeanne
      Paquet, on 5 November 1676, at
      Ste-Famille. In 1687 at St-Pierre, she became the godmother of
      Francois Vaillancourt. As for her husband, we find him on the long
      list of 279 people confirmed at Quebec
      on 4 April 1684.

      2. The history of Marie, born about 1655, is known to USA through
      that of her fiance Robert Vaillancourt and through her twelve
      children, all born and baptized at the
      church of Ste-Famille on the island.

      3. Francoise, confirmed with her sister Marie, at Chateau-Richer on
      21 February 1666, met Philippe Paquet, son of Antoine and of Renee
      Fouyart, from St- Martin
      -la-Riviere, in Poitou. On 12 June 1669, they signed a marriage
      contract. They settled on the island in the parish of Ste-Famille,
      then went to the parish of St-Jean, where
      eight sons and two daughters were born. Francoise Gobeil died on 24
      February 1716.

      4. The biographical account of the ancestor Pierre Hudon dit
      Beaulieu, at the same time, gives USA an account of Marie(2) Gobeil,
      born about 1659, married on 13 July
      1676 at Quebec, mother of twelve children at Riviere-Ouelle. After
      the death of her husband in 1710, she looked after her family for a
      quarter of a century. Her burial was at
      Riviere-Ouelle on Monday, 26 November 1736. How to explain that a
      girl from the island could become the servant of Jacques Leber, a
      notable merchant and land owner,
      at Montreal? On 4 July 1690, we find her again, ill for two days at
      the Hotel-Dieu of Quebec. She then said she was 23 years old.

      5. The following year, Jeanne-Angelique met Louis Prat, living in
      the Lower-Town of Quebec. The wedding took place at the cathedral on
      30 July 1691. Louis Prat was a
      good fellow, an innkeeper, a merchant-baker, a ship owner and the
      port captain of Quebec. In 1704, he built the ship le Joybert. "A few
      months after it was launched, the
      vessel returned triumphantly to Quebec, bringing the Pembroke Gally,
      a frigate taken from the English. This period is remembered in a
      painting dated from 1706 given to
      the sanctuary of Sainte-Anne-de-Beaupre. "

      In 1716, Louis and Jeanne-Angelique were living in the Rue Sous-le-
      Fort. The couple had three daughters, one of whom survived, Marie-
      Josephe, and was married to
      Charles-Paul Denis, Sieur de Saint-Simon, on 17 October 1713, at
      Quebec. Louis died in February 1726 and was buried in the cathedral.

      6. Catherine, the first Gobeil to be born in New France, on 26 March
      1666, was also a servant at the home of the fur merchant and founder
      of the Compagnie A Nord,
      Jacques Leber, in Montreal. She died as a result of the epidemic at
      the Hopital-General de Quebec after 11 February 1703.

      7. Barthelemi, the seventh Gobeil child, was the only one to carry
      on the name. Godson of Barthelemi Verreau, on 21 April 1668 at
      Chateau-Richer, a servant at the home
      of Francois Belanger in 1681, he moved into the Dionne family by
      marrying Anne, daughter of Antoine and of Catherine Ivory, on 19
      August 1697, at Ste-Famille. They
      had nine children, five of whom were sons, at St-Jean. Barthelemi
      inherited the paternal property. He died on 7 February 1724, after a
      long illness, fortified by all the
      sacraments.

      8. Marguerite Gobeil, was baptized at Chateau-Richer on 27 February
      1670. At the age of 18, she became the life companion of ancestor
      Guillaume Montminy, from
      Rouen, on 25 February 1688, at St-Jean. Seven children were given to
      them, including two born at La Durantaye. The burial act for
      Marguerite is found in the registry at
      Beaumont, on the date of 4 March 1715.

      9. The youngest, Laurent Gobeil, became the godson of Nicolas Huot
      dit St-Laurent on 5 November 1672, at Ste-Famille, and disappeared
      into the darkness of history,
      after 1697.

      And so the second and sympathetic Gobeil generation lived and died
      on the soil of their adopted country.

      THE INHERITANCE

      The weight of his 70 years lay heavily on the shoulders of Jean
      Gobeil. Moderate priced low income housing did not exist. It was
      necessary to get the family organized in
      order to survive with a minimum of freedom and security. To live out
      his old age in peace did not have the same sound of the bell as it
      does today.

      On 23 August 1695, Jean sold the farm to his son Barthelemi. This
      consisted of 25 arpents of cultivated land with his "sorry " house,
      his stable, the animals and his barn.
      His son immediately paid him 300 livres "in playing card money"
      which was legal tender at that time.

      Francois Genaple placed the document of this last sale in his notes
      at Quebec, in the presence of witnesses Nicolas Moreau, living on
      "rue saint nicolas," and Jean-Baptiste
      Peuvret, head clerk of the Sovereign Council. Son Barthelemi was
      still a bachelor. This ancestral land remained in the Gobeil family
      hands at St-Jean through the whole of
      the French regime.

      The special thing about Jean Gobeil's situation is that he imposed
      10 conditions at the time of the signing of his sale contract. Should
      we conclude that his son had verbally
      promised his elderly father to keep him at his home? Yes.

      We know that Jeanne Guyet died after 27 April 1689, the day on which
      she attended the burial of her Montminy grandson born dead, at -
      Laurent. This was the last notation
      of her presence among USA. Jean Gobeil stayed eighteen days at the
      Hotel-Dieu de Quebec during the months of January and February 1698.
      Then his story goes out like a
      beautiful candle at twilight.

      Jean Gobeil entered this country without announcing his arrival and
      he left it without leaving a trace of his departure. It may be
      likened to the stalk of an olive tree which
      disappears imperceptibly after having accepted new stems to replace
      it.

      FAMILY NAME VARIATIONS

      The only known variation of the name Gobeil is Gubby.


      END NOTES

      1) Records of Auber, 23 December 1665; 7 November 1669.
      2) Record of Becquet, 14 January 1672.
      3) Record of Genaple, 23 August 1695.
      4) Records of Rageot, 16 March 1686; 28 June 1690; 13 July 1690.
      5) Record of Vachon, 16 March 1688.
      6) Dussault, Eugene-F., Les Toupin du Sault (1976), page 36.
      7) Hollier, Robert., La France des Canadiens (1962), page 120.
      8) Jette, Rene., (1983), pages 506-507.
      9) Lafontaine, Andre., RANF 1666 & 1667 (1985), pages 27, 25 1;
      (1981), page 266; RAVO 1716 & 1744 (1983), pages 68, 188.
      10) Montel-Glenison, Caroline., Un tour de France Canadien (1980),
      page 163.
      11) Roy, Leon., LTIO 1650-1725 (1978), pages 160-162, 264-268, 380-
      391,419.
      12) Tanguay, Cyprien., DGFC (187 1), Volume 1, page 272.
      13) DBC, Volume 2, pages 554-555, Louis Prat.
      14) MSGCF, Volume 15, page 45; Volume 26, pages 173-183.



      He was from St-Andre, v. et ar. Niort, ev. Poitiers, Poitou (Deux-
      Sevres), France. He answered that he was 42 in 1666 and 1667 and in
      Beaupre (Chateau-Richer), and
      ansered that he was 57 in the 1681 recording living at the Isle
      Orleans. Confirmed on 21 Feb 1666 in Chateau-Richer, QP. He answered
      that he was 42. He was cited as
      being in Hotel-Dieu, Quebec, QP, on 12 Mar 1698 and age of 67.
    Person ID I3433  Freeman-Smith
    Last Modified 10 Apr 2024 

    Father GOBEIL Pierre,   b. 1603 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother CHAIGNEAU Catherine,   b. 1603 
    Relationship natural 
    Marriage 18 Feb 1623  St-Liguaire, Deux-Sevres, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F24632  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family (Guiet) Jeanne Guyet,   b. 15 Nov 1632, St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 13 Aug 1697, St-Laurent, I'le D'Orleans, PQ, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 64 years) 
    Marriage Abt 1654  St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. GOBEIL Marie Francoise,   b. 1655, St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft 17 Apr 1714, Ste-Famille Ile-D'Orleans, PQ, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age > 59 years)  [natural]
     2. GOBEIL Francoise,   b. 1656, St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [natural]
     3. GOBIEL Marie-Angelique,   b. 02 Apr 1659, St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 25 Nov 1736, Riviere Quelle, Kamouraska, PQ, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 77 years)  [natural]
     4. GOBEIL Jeanne Angelique,   b. 1663, St-Andre-Niorte, Diocese Poitiers, Poitou, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. PQ, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  [natural]
     5. GOBEIL Catherine,   b. 26 Mar 1666, Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, PQ, Canada Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Bef 11 Feb 1703, General Hospital, Montreal, PQ, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age < 36 years)  [natural]
     6. GOBEIL Barthelemi,   b. 21 Apr 1668, Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, PQ, Canada Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 07 Feb 1724, St-Jean, Ile D'Orleans, PQ, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 55 years)  [natural]
     7. GOBEIL Marguerite,   b. 26 Feb 1670, Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, PQ, Canada Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 14 Mar 1715, St-Etienne/Beaumont, Bellechase, PQ, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 45 years)  [natural]
     8. GOBEIL Laurent,   b. 04 Nov 1672, Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, PQ, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  [natural]
    Family ID F3433  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 10 Apr 2024 

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