 Abt 0954 - Aft 0991 (> 38 years)
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| Name |
VERMANDOIS Adelais |
| Birth |
Abt 0954 |
France  |
| Gender |
Female |
| Death |
Aft 0991 |
Orleans, France |
| Notes |
- Birth, Parents, Siblings
Adelais de Troyes was born, say, 954. Her parents were married by 950, when their oldest child was born. If she was the third, her estimated birth would be 954.
There is some question about her parents, but they are most likely Robert de Vermandois and his wife Adelaide.
One reason for the question is that she appears to have a sister with a similar name. While in fact and in documents, Adela, Adele, Adelais, and Adelaide are often used interchangeably, for the purposes of these sisters, this sister is referred to as Adelais or Adelaide, while the other sister is referred to as Adele or Adela.
Marriage to Charles, Duke of Lorraine
Baldwin refers to her as the unnamed wife of Charles, duke of Lorraine and notes that "This conjecture is based on a passage in Historia Francorum Senonensis, which states that Charles married a daughter of count Heribert of Troyes." [1]
Cawley eliminates Heribert, son of Robert, born about 950, as too young to be Charles' father in law. Cawley also eliminates Héribert II Comte de Vermandois, father of Robert, who was not Comte de Troyes. [2]
Baldwin notes that the same passage falsely makes Charles into a son of king Lothair, when he was in fact a brother [1] and adds that for chronological reasons, Settipani conjectures that this unnamed woman was instead a daughter of Robert [3] Cawley, following Settipani's conjecture, makes Charles' unnamed wife to be Adelais de Troyes, born between 950 and 951, died after 991), a second daughter of Robert with a name similar to the first, who married about 970 Charles de France, son of Louis IV "d'Outremer" King of the Franks & his wife Gerberga von Sachsen. [4]
Charles
Charles de France was son of Louis IV "d'Outremer" King of the Franks and his wife Gerberga von Sachsen. [5]
Charles was born in Laon the summer of 953. [5]
He was in prison in Orléans after 991 and was buried in 1001 Maastricht, St Servatius. He was invested as Duke of Lower Lotharingia by Emperor Otto II in May 977.] [5]
Sources
↑ 1.0 1.1 The Henry Project. Compiled by Stewart Baldwin. First uploaded 23 May 2007. Revised version uploaded 24 April 2008 (Added information on two supposed children Adélaïde and Archembaud, plus additional minor corrections)Robert. Accessed Feb 27, 2017. jhd
↑ Charles Cawley. Foundation for Medieval Genealogy. Medieval Land Database, Champagne - Troyes. Robert Accessed June 6, 2017. jhd
↑ Settipani (1993), 337-8, n. 1010, cited by Stewart Baldwin, Henry Project.
↑ Charle Cawley, Foundation for Medieval Genealogy. Medieval Lands Database. Champagne Nobility
↑ 5.0 5.1 5.2 Cawley, Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, Medieval Lands Database Northern France
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| Person ID |
I58942 |
Freeman-Smith |
| Last Modified |
27 Jan 2026 |
| Father |
VERMANDOIS Robert, b. Abt 0931, Western Francia d. 29 Aug 0968, Western Francia (Age 37 years) |
| Relationship |
natural |
| Mother |
CHALON Adelaide Werra, b. Abt 0933, France d. 19 Aug 0967, Seltz, Alsace (Age 34 years) |
| Relationship |
natural |
| Marriage |
0953 |
Vermandois, , Normandie, France |
| Family ID |
F26014 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Family |
CAROLINGIAN Charles, b. 0953, France d. 21 May 0992, Orléans, France (Age ~ 38 years) |
| Marriage |
0970 |
| Children |
| | 1. LOTHARINGIA Ermengarde, b. Abt 0970, Lower Lotharingia, Holy Roman Empire d. Aft 1013, Namur, Lower Lotharingia, Holy Roman Empire (Age > 44 years) [Father: natural] [Mother: natural] |
| | 2. LOTHARINGIA Gerberga, b. Abt 0975, Lower Lotharingia, Holy Roman Empire d. Aft 1018, Nivelles, Brabant, Lower Lotharingia, Holy Roman Empire (Age > 44 years) [Father: natural] [Mother: natural] |
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| Family ID |
F26220 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Last Modified |
27 Jan 2026 |
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