DAMMARTIN Alberic

Male Abt 1138 - 1200  (62 years)

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  • Name DAMMARTIN Alberic 
    Birth Abt 1138  Dammartin, Ile de France, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Death 19 Sep 1200  Lillebonne, Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    • While several standard sources state that Joan Basset was the mother of Alberic II, giving a rough marriage date of Alberic I and Joan as "ca 1160", even if this date is not accurate, it is patently clear that Joan could not have been Alberic II's mother. Joan Basset is known to have married twice before her marriage to Alberic I, with her second marriage occurring "circa 1152". This, combined with all other known chronology for Alberic II and his antecedents, has resulted in a change in thought among the professional genealogical community. It is now accepted that Alberic II was the son of his father's first wife. (Ref; Geneajourney 30 Nov 2014)

      Marriage
      Alberic III de Dammartin married, firstly Joan Basset (as her third husband) ca. 1159/60. There is no known child of this marriage.

      He married, secondly after 1162, Mathilde/Mahaut de Clermont, daughter of Renaud de Clermont (-en-Beauvais). They had several children:

      Children
      Renaud, Count of Dammartin, who was deprived of Dammartin by Philip Augustus
      Simon, Count, jure uxoris, of Ponthieu
      Raoul
      Alix, wife of Jean de Trie
      Agnès, married Guillaume de Fiennes
      Clémence, married Jacques de Saint-Omer
      a daughter? grandmother of Enguerrand and Renaud de Picquigny (Cawley)
      Juliane (unproven) wife of Hugues de Gournay.
      Alberic died in Lillebonne in 1200 and was buried in the abbey of Jumièges[1].

      Birth
      About:1135-00-00
      Dammartin, Ile DE France, France[2]
      Death
      1200 9 19
      London, England[3]
      Burial
      Jumieges, France[4]
      Research Notes
      This is Alberic (Aubri) III de Danmartin, son of Alberic II and ---. The family name "Mello" would be explained by the theory that this Dammartin family would be descended from Aubry de Mello - see https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_de_Dammartin-Montdidier#Hugues_de_Dammartin, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famille_de_Mello, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_de_Dammartin. I cannot judge of the accuracy of this, but even if incorrect, it can still explain the name of Mello given to Alberic de Dammartin. Rassinot-1 21:52, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

      Sources
      ↑ Aubry II Dammartin, Charles Cawley, Medieval Lands, Paris Region - Clermont & Dammartin, Chap. 2B Comtes de Dammartin. Accessed Sept 2018
      ↑ Source: #S96 Data: Text: Date of Import: Jul 25, 2005
      ↑ Source: #S96 Data: Text: Date of Import: Jul 25, 2005
      ↑ Source: #S96 Data: Text: Date of Import: Jul 25, 2005
      See also:

      Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume 2, p 381. Richardson places this Aubrey as the son of Aubrey and his first wife Maud. He further states that Maud is "possibly daughter of William St Clair of Huntingtonshire."
      Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume I, page 470 BOULOGNE 7. "Guillaume (or William) de Fiennes, born say 1170. He married (1st) Isabel _____. They had no known issue. He married (2nd) before 1 Jan. 1204 Agnes De Dammartin, daughter of Aubrey II, Count of Dammartin, by Mahaut, daughter of Renaud II, Count of Clermont-en-Beauvaisis. They had three sons, Enguerrand (or Ingram), Michael [Rector], and Baldwin, and four daughters, Mahaut (wife of Baldwin III, Count of Guines), Katherine, ______ (wife of Flamunscheye) and allegedly _____ (wife of Bartholomew de Hampden).
      Source: S96 Record ID Number: MH:S96 User ID: CCD7662F-AD30-47C8-B9BC-6B348174ACE3 Title: Eula Maria McKeaig II - 061204
      http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parclerdam.htm#AubryIIDammartindied1200B
      http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/1997-02/0855106136
      http://www.geneajourney.com/dammrtn.html#alberic2
    Person ID I60040  Freeman-Smith
    Last Modified 27 Jan 2026 

    Father DAMMARTIN Alberic,   b. Abt 1102, Dammartin, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Abt 1183, Norton, Stow, Suffolk, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 81 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother UNKNOWN Mathilde,   b. Abt 1118   d. Aft 1147 (Age > 30 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Marriage 1133 
    Family ID F26658  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family CLERMONT Mathilde,   b. Abt 1140, Clermont, Beauvaisis, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft May 1218, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age > 78 years) 
    Marriage 1164  France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. DAMMARTIN Simon,   b. Abt 1180, Dammartin, Seine-et-Marne, Ile-de-France, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 21 Sep 1239, Abbeville, Somme, Picardie, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 59 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
    Family ID F26657  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 27 Jan 2026 


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